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Herb's Mac collectables


Most recent revision date of this page, May 19 2008.

The following are items that some consider as "collectable" because of age and interest. Prices and terms subject to change without notice.

On this page:

  • Early Mac parts
  • Specific or general Mac systems
  • a "good" Mac SE
  • Mac accessories, upgrades, add-ons
  • Apple HD20, HD20 SC
  • early Apple Macintosh software
  • References from customers

    Double boxing: that means items which include an original Apple box could be shipped inside a larger box, to protect the original Apple box. This will increase shipping costs due to weight and possibly size. We will also charge an additional fee for the time, box, and materials this will require.

    A complete list of pointers to our Mac inventory, services and information pages is on my Mac home page.
    Many Mac parts are listed on my Mac Parts page. But check my Mac home page for links to many OTHER parts and systems pages.

    An unusual source of information for the oldest Macs - Apple's Web domain at mac.com - has a page on "pre-System 7 Macs" hardware and software. Check Apple Macintosh before System 7 by Eric Rasmussen written Aug 8 2005.

    When ordering, please follow this link for my email address, ordering information, terms and conditions, and info about orders outside the USA. If you live outside the United States, consider the costs of shipping; and the costs of providing payment.


    Early Apple Macintosh parts and hardware

    floppy disk drives and diskettes

    If you are looking for 800K floppy drives for the Mac 128K or 512K, or for 400K or 800K diskettes, please check check my floppy drive section of my parts Web page.

    The 400K drive was only used in the 128K and 512K computers. Here is a link to a photo of a 400K drive, out of the Mac or external drive case. As supplies and repairs permit, we offer 400K floppy drives, cleaned and lubricated and tested. Cleaning and lubrication is necessary as these drive have chronic problems with old lubricants.

    Internal and external 400K drives repaired as described may be available. Availability and price of these drives will vary, but no less than $69 plus shipping in any event as of Jan 2008. SPECIFY THE COSMETIC CONDITION you want for an external drive, please. Shipping weight is 3 lbs for internal drives, 5 lbs for external. We may limit this offer at times, as it takes time to find and repair these drives; or if we are out of these drives.

    We may accept your nonworking 400K drive for credit when buying ours, or we may buy yours outright - ask for details. But typically we will offer a credit toward purchase a 400K drive, which has NOT BEEN PREVIOUSLY REPAIRED, and which has ALL PARTS INCLUDED. Specifically, the felt pad and holder that is mounted on the drive read/write head MUST be included. THIS OFFER IS LIMITED and is not guaranteed.

    Early Mac or Apple A/C cords

    Apple logoed A/C cord, for USA (110V AC). Has Apple logo on AC plug. The cord may be brown/tan, or ivory, or grey. It ends in a FEMALE, three-pin AC connector which plugs into your Mac. The center pin is offset from the other two pins. Some A/C cords have a right-angled female connector, it is "bent" relative to the cord; these bends can occur in three ways. Some have a "straight" female connector, it is "straight" relative to the cord. Describing these is difficult, so I have an image and I'll try to describe them as well.

    We can't tell you what model Mac had what A/C cord, we can only sell you a cord of some particular description. Please specify color, if you want a right-angled connector, WHICH WAY it is angled, and if you wish the Apple/Mac item you want it for. But we offer no guarantees that any cord was sold by Apple with any particular product, and I certainly don't know myself. Check the Web, check other sources for such information.

    The image at this link shows four female connectors which plug into your Mac/Apple product. They are labled A B C D. They are positioned with the power cord hanging STRAIGHT DOWN from the FEMALE connector. The "angled" connectors are shown facing you if possible so you can see the FEMALE pins.
    "A" shows a straight connector, its pins point STRAIGHT UP and you can't directly see the female pins.
    "B" shows the bent connector's pins, and the center pin is offset to the RIGHT.
    "C" shows the bent connector's pins, and the center pin is offset to the LEFT.
    "D" shows the bent connector's pins, and the center pin is offset DOWN.
    Surprising variety, eh?

    Brown/tan Apple brand A/C cord, straight, not right-angled - OUT as of Jan 2006 but ask, price will be above $?? plus shipping.
    Right angled Apple A/C cord, you specify bend as above. Grey or white, $? each plus shipping. Brown/tan, $?? each.
    Ivory/white or grey Apple A/C cord, not right angled, $? each plus shipping.

    Early Mac/Apple cables

    Mac 128K/512K (DB-9) to Imagewriter I (DB-25) ORIGINAL APPLE cable, 590-0169. Dark tan, Apple logo, square/rectangular molded connector housings. ask if available and price, at least $?? plus shipping.

    Apple original serial/printer cord, DB-9 to DIN-8. See our Mac cables parts for descriptions of these connectors.
    Grey color, six feet, Apple number 590-0551-A . $?? each plus shipping and packing.
    White color, several feet, Apple number 590-0332-B . $?? each plus shipping and packing.
    White color, under one foot, Apple number 590-0341-A . $?? each plus shipping and packing.
    We may have others, ask!

    Early Mac programmer's switch

    The programmers switch or reset switch is that little plastic device on the side of the Mac which lets you manually reset the computer. If your Mac "hangs up", this will restart your computer without turning the power off and on. It also has an "interrupt" switch which was used by software developers.
    We have TAN/BROWN switches for the Mac 128K and 512K and Plus for $?? each plus shipping.

    Keyboards, mice

    Keyboard in good condition are listed on our parts Web page. The items listed here are new or unused or very lightly used. They will sell for more than the used models.

    Mac Plus Platinum (grey) keyboard, in original Apple parts box. Appears unused. Looking for offer.
    new or unused Apple Keyboard in box. model M0116, 661-0383. w/cable. A few available. Looking for offers.

    [128K & Plus mouse] Mouse with DB-9 SQUARE-cornered connector housing as in photo on RIGHT, original for 128K, early 512K. Similar mouse with ROUND-cornered connector housing as on LEFT, original for Mac Plus. The best condition mice are reserved for sale with unfaded Plus, 512K, 128K Macs.
    Other Plus, 128K, 512K mice are available on my Mac parts page.

    Other parts

    Other parts for early Macs may be on our Mac parts Web page.

    Some unused Mac parts of interest may be on our unused service parts Web page.. A few unused parts are below; we will review and price them in due course. They are not likely to be cheap; compare prices to our used and tested versions if we have them as of course unused parts will cost more than used.

    661-1616, Apple power supply, (2) units, for Mac II, IIfx, IIx. one opened *sold??*
    661-0345, Apple 800k floppy drive
    661-1651, Apple 1.4M floppy drive
    661-0528, Apple Mac II logic (CPU) board
    661-0532, Apple Mac IIci logic (cpu) board

    When ordering, please follow this link for my email address, ordering information, terms and conditions, and info about orders outside the USA. If you live outside the United States, consider the costs of shipping; and the costs of providing payment.


    Specific Mac systems

    [LC 578] Mac Performa 578, yellowed but working OK, in original Apple shipping box. 36 megs RAM, 300Mb IDE hard drive, CD drive, floppy drive. Integrated 14-inch color monitor, 68LC040 at 33MHz. This system uses 72-pin DRAM. With OS 7.5, working floppy and CD drive. Similar in appearance to models such as the LC 550, 575, 576, 578 systems. Here's a top view of the 578. Apple shipping box in good condition, with styrofoam inserts, Apple system OS CD and other Apple CD's, and matching serial number lable to system. Shipping weight 45 lbs. Ask about price, but we will not sell for less than $99 plus shipping, as systems "in the box" are unusual. There will be some extra charge for shipping this boxed system inside ANOTHER box, to protect the Apple box. A pickup from central New Jersey is possible.

    Other early Mac systems

    a "good condition" Compact Mac

    The Mac SE system in this section is an EXAMPLE of an SE in "good cosmetic condition", and was sold in April 2006. There are no physical damages to the SE case. There is slight fading from the original "platinum" but it is uniform and not unsightly. The CRT screen has no signifigant screen burn, the image is bright and sharp. No manuals, original box or disks included; but I get these from time to time, check my Mac books and software section.

    Here are images of the SE in good condition:

    Systems of this vintage are sold with cleaned and lubricated floppy drives, 800K or 1.2Mb as appropriate. The diskette drive reads and writes diskettes and ejects them correctly. Hard drives sold with such systems have no obvious errors, Any software on the hard drive is offered without any warrenty or guarantee whatsoever.

    If you need a Plus, SE, SE/30, SE FDHD or other Compact Mac in GOOD condition, please let us know the model and if we have one we will quote accordingly.


    mac 128K, 512K systems

    [Mac 128K] Here is a typical Mac 128K, with numeric keypad option. Any unit I sell will be clean and working. The 400K drives are relubricated and fully checked out. No screen burn, good power supply, includes mouse and short keyboard. There would be no damage to the case. Details of condition would be described for each unit. Shipping weight 25 lbs for system unit, keyboard, and mouse; more for any additional items.

    To save some time: for a Mac 128K I would expect prices over $??? plus shipping, for a 128K Mac with 128k-type keyboard and mouse in excellent cosmetic condition and in good working condition including a working internal floppy drive. I do not offer any 128K's in lesser condition. Contact me if these terms are acceptable, to see what I have available and at what prices.

    [Mac 128K] Mac 512K's are also available from time to time, either in collectable condition (described as above), or with some cosmetic damage - typically some uneven fading, some pale patches where lables were removed. I DO NOT SELL JUNK - these are good units but collectors simply pay more for units with no cosmetic flaws.

    Some 512K Macs come with 800K floppy drives and are known as "512KE"; older 512K Macs may not support 800k drives. The 512K cases have the lable "Macintosh 512K" on the back in the upper left corner: the lable in the lower right may have one of the following model numbers: "M0001", "M0001E", "M0001W" (information on these numbers would be appreciated). However some older 512K's (or 128K's) were updated to the 800K drive and/or 512K logic. Units in working and in cosmetically collectable condition are available from time to time, ask for details and current prices. Please tell me which model case you want as well as whether you want the 800K drive model. We don't guarantee all this model info is correct or complete, we'd appreciate corrections. Check the Web for more info.

    Mac SE with 68030/25 accelerator and external video card

    We HAD a SE accelerator and video card in an SE system! **SOLD** A clean SE case, lightly faded, with a Mobius SE 68030/25 accelerator, 4MB additional RAM with video including software and manuals! We fired up the system in Sept 2007, and it worked fine and was SOLD. Here's some photos:

    [Platinum Plus] Mac Plus system in good condition, very clean, no fading of color, and working fine. The system would be without nicks or dings or pale patches. Keyboard and mouse will be in similar condition. In short, a Mac system in great shape! Mac Plus in good condition are available in my Mac Plus section.

    Color Classic 10Mb RAM (maximum), 80 MB hard drive with System 7.1 (software not warrented). Good display, added VRAM to provide "thousands" of colors. Floppy OK. Case is physically undamaged, no nicks or scrapes, but is faded and yellowish. No offer below $89 plus shipping will be considered as this is a WORKING Color Classic. SOLD April 2008

    Quadra 605 in original Apple shipping box, 68040LC 25MHz system, looks like Mac LC III. 36MB RAM, 160MB HD, VRAM for 800X600X256 resolution, System 7.6.1 (no software warrenties). *SOLD*

    Mac Classic system in Apple box. We have a Mac Classic system in a box with matching serial numbers. The box is in good but dusty condition with some markings on it. Here is an image of the box. Here is the Classic inside the box. In addition, here is an image of the Classic system.. The Classic case is lightly but uniformly faded and has no dings or scratches. The CRT is uniformly but lightly burned. Note: this system as discussed here includes only the Classic, the box and its two styrofoam inserts. I may have a replacement CRT, and I have items like keyboards and mice. Price depends on any work to be done to improve or upgrade, plus the operating condition when offered. We will test and discuss price accordingly. Extra fees for double boxing. No offer below $59 plus shipping will be considered; its parts value exceeds that, and the matching box is unique.

    Mac accessories, upgrades, add-ons

    We have a few Apple system packing boxes, some with most of the original disks and papers included with an SE shipped by Apple. We have boxes for the Plus, SE and others, but no 128K or 512K boxes as of April 2006. The example box below is an SE box, we don't have the matching SE with the same serial number. The box has upper and lower styrofoam inserts, intact. The books and papers, in the original styrofoam box, include the SE manual, superfinder manual, registration papers, Apple decals, and other documents. There are also four System 6 disks in the box, and a "SE tour" disk; a mouse and A/C cable. Also in the packing box is a keyboard box with a keyboard and both styrofoam inserts; and papers associated with the keyboard. Extra shipping fees for double boxing.

    Here are images of the SE box and its contents:

    [tan bag] I occasionally have original Apple Mac tan carrying bags, suitable for any of the Compact Macs. Often these have writing on the bottom such as this example. I may have other bags such as Targas brand bags. Ask me for details and prices for current stock.

    As of 2008 I have ONE non-Apple brand "compact Mac" carrying bags in each of the following colors: grey, dark blue-green, red-violet colors. $25 plus shipping and packing. Shipping weight 5 lbs but shipping dimensions (18X15X11) may increase shipping costs.

    AppleTalk PC card box, M2050. one corner broken open but otherwise in good condition; has "10.00" in marker written on it. This bx would contain an Apple ISA card 630-0113 for Intel/Windows systems to run Appletalk networks. Box contains the following: Two disks in holder, PC LaserWriter Program Disk Application, Disk Startup (5.25" disks, for PC); 680-5008, 680-5018. Limited Warrenty card. Packing List. THERE IS NO MANUAL, the packing list says it would be "AppleTalk PC Card" 030-1256. The card in the box is NOT APPLE as per packing list; it is "Centram Systems West Inc. P/N 10322 Rev D". If you have the manual and/or card consider these items.

    MacSnap Plus 2 by Dove Systems in box. Doubles Plus memory by adapters which allow SIMMS to be stacked up in sockets. Contains four special 1MB SIMMS (Dove Computer 630-1257) which also have a SIMM *socket*. Box includes diskette, lable, copywrite/warrenty card (top half only); original reciept ($249.00!) from 1988; RAMSNAP User Manual; MacSnap Plus 2 Manual Supplement (2 duplicate manuals); MacSnap instruction manual (for original MacSnap processor upgrade product). Quite a collection of MacSnap information and history!

    [ImageWriter I] Imagewriter I, in original MAC shipping box (the one pictured is in an Apple II type box), including manual and AC cord. Box and printer in excellent condition, no damage. Shipping weight about 30 lbs, will ship with box placed inside shipping box.

    Apple CD600e external CD ROM drive in original box, matching serial numbers. Not "mint" but complete. Box and packing is in excellent condition. Outer color wrapper is torn and damaged but intact. Serial number on BOX, not wrapper, matches drive. Drive is working, case in good condition but soiled. Contents: Apple CD600e external CD-ROM drive, intact styrofoam packing, Apple accessory box. Accessory box contains: Apple branded SCSI cable, terminator, A/C cord. Two CD's: CD-ROM Setup and eWorld. Documents: CD-ROM User's Guide, warrenty sheet, software license sheet, software update sheet.

    [apple modem]Apple 1200 baud modem and manual Apple modem model A9M0301, serial number in the 76,000 range. "Modem 300/1200 User's Manual" "Part 1: reference". It has 70 pages. It's an Apple II series manual 030-0610-C copyright 1983. Manual is in good condition see this photo, and includes a folded Modem Reference Card command summary and a Limited Warrenty document. Modem is in very good cosmetic condition, see this photo Some yellowing on the front with a white patch where a label was, see this photo. Less yellowing on sides, little on top. One small 1/2" scratch on top rear area. Modem includes DB-9 cable for 128K or 512K Mac, and Apple branded A/C power supply. Modem powers up, can do testing. What is your offer? We'll add shipping.

    Apple HD20, HD20 SC

    [HD 20 floppy version] Apple Hard Disk 20 (HD20), 20 meg HD in tan cabinets.
    Connects to Mac floppy port (not SCSI) with attached cable. First external Apple / Mac hard drive. THIS IS NOT A SCSI HARD DRIVE, THERE IS NOT A SCSI HARD DRIVE INSIDE, the hard drive is unique. It works with the 512KE and later Macs with external floppy connector. It will also work with a 512K or 128K Mac with a proper operating system which includes the "HD20" file. Check our Mac software section for specifics on that software. Check our hard drive technical section for a review of the HD20 and its use on 128K's and 512K's.

    We have a few HD20 drives (not SCSI) in FADED cosmetic condition, yellowed. Due to their rarity and their age, we price these based on customer's requests, and test them at the time of request. Drives with cases in better condition, and working, will cost more. Price and availability depends on time available for testing and work: you'll have to ask.

    [HD20 hard drive] The HD20 SC hard drive is the first Apple external SCSI drive, and it MUST HAVE a SCSI terminator device. Later models of higher capacity (HD40, HD160, etc.) are the same case with a different lable and of course a different capacity of SCSI drive inside. Since we get these units used, the previous owner may have replaced the drive. For more technical discussion, see our SCSI Tech Section.

    Because of the age of these cases, they are fragile and difficult to open without damaging the plastic clasps which hold it closed. Also, the drives inside the cases are old and (if we don't open the case) unserviced. So as of Aug 2004, we will price these FOR ONLY THE CASE AND POWER SUPPLY IN WORKING CONDITION; THE HARD DRIVE IS UNWARRENTED. If you also want one with a WORKING drive, we'll have to replace the drive inside at additional cost of the drive itself plus labor: ask for a quote. Or, you can use your own SCSI drive, or you can order an internal SCSI drive for YOU to do the replacment. Internal SCSI drives for replacement inside the HD20 are on this page. For a more reliable working SCSI external drive check our hard drive Web page.

    For reference, here's some photos of an HD20 SC case in "excellent" condition. here's the top and front, and here's the bottom and back. THIS IS NOT AVAILABLE CURRENTLY, it's an example. Bits of masking tape are to protect the snaps from closing, as I've kept the cover loose to avoid opening and closing the case again.

    Shipping extra on all drives, shipping wt. 15. lbs. on one drive. You will need a SCSI-1 cable and a SCSI-1 terminator for the SCSI drives, those cables and terminators are available on this page.

    The AppleCD SC model M2850 is an early Apple external CD-ROM drive. It uses a caddy, not a tray: we will include a caddy with the drive. The case is about the size of an HD20 SCSI drive, about 10 inches square. I have a few of these, tested and working, and in good cosmetic condition (slight fading, no physical damage), as of Dec 2004. Minimum price is $?? plus shipping. Let me know if this is of interest and I will quote a price based on the cosmetic condition YOU SPECIFY.

    When ordering, please follow this link for my email address, ordering information, terms and conditions, and info about orders outside the USA. If you live outside the United States, consider the costs of shipping; and the costs of providing payment.


    early Apple Macintosh software

    Apple brand Macintosh software

    We offer some older system software on our Mac software page. There is also a great deal of original software disks and CD's available on that page, from Apple and other Mac software producers, at very modest prices. The software on this page is old and rare. If no price is listed, MAKE ME AN OFFER. But look at the other prices here first to get a clue as to what would be an acceptable offer. We will determine packing and shipping costs seperately from your offer.

    A customer who wanted HD20 and early system software referred me to this site: Apple Macintosh before System 7 by Eric Rasmussen. It's a chronology of early Macs and OS's in the 128K 512K Plus era. Has a link to Apple docs on the subject but offers corrections supposedly based on original disks. If you want more links to Apple's site, and to other Mac Web sites, check my links page.

    Macintosh Pascal V1.0 boxed set. One disk (c)1984, 690-5010-A. Three manuals: Pascal technical Appendix, Pascal reference, Pascal User's Guide. In original Apple box 942-0538-A. I believe this is the first high-level language for the 128K Mac. No offers below $???, we aren't in a hurry.

    Macintosh Pascal V1.0, disk only $??

    MacPaint boxed set, M0536. Manual, 2 400K disks, papers. Seems complete.

    Hypercard boxed set, M0556. Probably version 1.?? four 800K disks, User's manual. 1987
    --two sets, both open, with User's manual 030-3081-A and these disks:
    --Help (690-5181A), Stacks (690-5116A), startup (690-5110A), ideas (690-5182A)

    Hypercard boxed set, M0556/A, still sealed, probably similar to above.

    Hypercard manual in wrapper with three disks
    -- manual is 030-3081-D. Wrapper is 942-1601A, holds three disks only. -- disks are ideas (690-5182-c) help (690-5181-B) stacks (690-5381-a Ver 1.2.5)

    Other old Mac diskettes:
    Hard Disk 20 startup diskette
    MacWorks XL system disk, probably overwritten,
    LisaList diskette, probably overwritten
    MacTerminal diskette

    Microsoft brand Macintosh software

    Multiplan, boxed set from 1984. Green box, with manual, product line list, other papers. No disks.

    Multiplan, early version, diskette only, #

    BASIC, boxed set from 1984. Green box, with manual, product line list, envelope with BASIC disk. Box says "new version".

    QuickBasic for Mac, year 1988, # manual, 2 disks
    Basic Interpreter, manual dated 1984, and 2 disks, 1986+ #
    Basic Interpreter manual, 1984, document # 81085-200-01. fair to good condition, cover bent.

    Chart, boxed set from 1984, still sealed!. Green box, contents not known. Lable says Version 1.0

    Word, 1987, # Utilties and Program disks, 034-096-086 and 034-096-085.
    Word, 1985, # Program disks, 034-096-059

    Excel 1.0, Users's Guide only in binder
    Excel "Data Access Functions" disk, 1990,
    Excel, 2 disks, very early.
    ---Program disk 1, data disk 2, 065-096-005 and 065-096-004
    Excel, Ver 1.04, 1 disk,
    Excel, Ver 1.5, program disk,
    Excel 2.2, three disks

    You may wish to check my Mac books and software section for other original Apple and Microsoft / Mac books and disks.

    When ordering, please follow this link for my email address, ordering information, terms and conditions, and info about orders outside the USA. If you live outside the United States, consider the costs of shipping; and the costs of providing payment.


    References


    (All references are unsolicited and quoted with permission.)

    General references from all my Mac customers are at this link.

    T.S. bought a 512K Mac without the motherboard and power supply. He says: "I got the package about a week ago but only now finally got around to testing. I've got my flashing questionmark icon, so thanks for getting me on my way! Now to get that system disk[ette].."

    S. L. of SC bought an SE system and said: "Thanks again for your help. I got the SE today. Unpacked it, booted it up, nice system! Now all I need to do is find where I can find 800K floppies and a scsi/ethernet adaptor. I really appreciate your help and service, and am very happy with the SE."

    C. A. of AZ ordered a SE FDHD in good condition. He wrote: "Herb, the SE arrived yesterday having survived the trip in good form. Looks great and started up just fine. Fun to see that screen after so many years. Thanks for your work. Pleasure doing business with you Herb."

    E. W. of CANADA said: "Just a quick note to let you know I picked up your shipment today. Everything seems to be working fine: 400K external drive, 128K Mac numeric keypad and cable, [other items]. I'll likely be sending in another order for more stuff in the new year. Thanx.."

    R.S. of AL said: "The used Apple Imagewiter I printer that I ordered from you came today. It works fine and I just wanted to let you know I am a happy customer."

    L. M. of OK said: I got the Mac [128K you repaired for me] yesterday afternoon, the 12th. I hooked it up this morning and it all works just fine. I guess the only mistake I made in the whole process was paying some local yokel $80 to tell me it couldn't be fixed. But as the old Pennsylvania Dutch saying states, " We gedt too soon oldt und too late schmardt." Any way, thanks for a good job."

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